Showing posts with label flat earth. Show all posts
Showing posts with label flat earth. Show all posts

Monday, August 21, 2017

How Ancient Cultures Explained Eclipses. (Video)

How Ancient Cultures Explained Eclipses. 
A Shout Out to My Flat Earther Buddies.

This video is taken from an article called "How Ancient Cultures Explained  Eclipses". It is featured in an online publication called "the Conversation" and was written by Roger Culver, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Colorado State University.

I recently saw a couple of videos posted by Flat Earthers who say that the coming Eclipse is a lie and proof that we live on a Flat Earth.  They say that astronomers are hard press to prove that the Sun which is 93 million miles away and yay big could possibly be eclipse by a moon that is so much smaller and so much closer to the Earth.

Personally, I am not too sure about this argument for the flat earth because that type of shadowing can be done when you position beam of light at a certain distance where it can be obstructed by another object in its path, causing a third object in the line of sight, to have a shadow cast upon it. But let's take a look at what the Ancient Cultures have said.

How ancient cultures explained eclipses

by Roger Culver, Colorado State University
The Conversation



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A 1765 painting of Helios,
the personification of the sun
 in Greek mythology. Wikimedia Commons

On August 21, a total solar eclipse will be visible across parts of the United States.
As the Earth and moon sweep through space in their annual journey around the sun, the three bodies align in such a way that the Earth passes into the shadow of the moon. Observers then witness a sun that is gradually covered and uncovered by the moon’s disk – a spectacular celestial event.

But until astronomers were able to explain this phenomenon, a solar eclipse could be a terrifying event. In many cultures throughout human history, the sun was seen as an entity of supreme importance, crucial to their very existence. It was regularly worshipped as a god – Amun-Ra to the Egyptians and Helios to the Greeks – or as a goddess, such as Amaterasu for the Japanese and Saule for many Baltic cultures.

One reason the sun served as a god or goddess in so many cultures was its awesome power: Looking directly at it would severely damages the eyes, a sign of the sun diety’s wrath.
So the idea that the sun deity could be temporarily extinguished in a total eclipse inspired a number of imaginative explanations. Most involve some sort of evil entity trying to devour the sun. Such myths undoubtedly arose from the fact that during the early stages of a solar eclipse, the sun appears to have a bite taken out of it.

The various creatures include the Vikings’ sky wolves Skoll and Hati, a Chinese dragon, a Vietnamese frog and assorted Roman demons. In many cultures, it was believed that such creatures could be driven off by creating as much loud noise as possible: yelling, ringing bells, and banging pots and pans.
Perhaps the most creative version of this strand of mythologies comes from certain branches of Hindu culture. In that version, the mortal Rahu is said to have attempted to attain immortality. The sun and moon told the god Visnu of Rahu’s transgression. As punishment, Visnu decapitated Rahu.

Ever since, Rahu has sought to exact vengeance on the sun and the moon by pursuing them across the sky to eat them. Once in a while – at the time of an eclipse – Rahu actually catches the sun or the moon. In the case of a solar eclipse, Rahu slowly devours the sun, and it gradually disappears into Rahu’s throat – only to reappear from his severed neck.

Rahu swallowing the moon.
Anandajoti Bhikkhu, CC BY
In other branches of Hindu culture, the “sun eater” took the more traditional form of a dragon. To fight this beast, certain Hindu sects in India immersed themselves up to the neck in water in an act of worship, believing that the adulation would aid the sun in fighting off the dragon.
Other cultures had equally ingenious explanations for – and defenses against – a total solar eclipse. Eskimos thought an eclipse meant that the sun and moon had become temporarily diseased. In response, they’d cover up everything of importance – themselves included – lest they be infected by the “diseased” rays of the eclipsed sun.

For the Ojibwe tribe of the Great Lakes, the onset of total eclipse represented an extinguished sun. To prevent permanent darkness, they proceeded to fire flaming arrows at the darkened sun in an attempt to rekindkle it.
Amidst the plethora of the myths and legends and interpretations of this strange event, there are seeds of understanding about their true nature.

For example, the famed total solar eclipse of May 28, 585 B.C., occurred in the middle of a battle between the Medes and the Lydians in what is now the northeast region of modern-day Turkey. The eclipse actually ended the conflict on the spot, with both sides interpreting the event as a sign of the displeasure from the gods. But based on the writings of the ancient Greek historian Heroditus, it’s thought that the great Greek philosopher-mathematician Thales of Miletus had, coincidentally, predicted its occurrence.

Chinese, Alexandrian and Babylonian astronomers were also said to be sophisticated enough to not only understand the true nature of solar eclipses, but also to roughly predict when the “dragon” would come to devour the sun. (As with much knowledge back then, however, astronomical and astrological findings were relayed only to the ruling elites, while myths and legends continued to percolate among the general population.)

Advances in modern astronomy have given us detailed explanations for solar eclipses, to the extent that their time and location can be predicted centuries into the future and reconstructed from centuries ago.

The ConversationOf course, mythologies surrounding total solar eclipses still exist today. Some conspiracy theorists say this year’s eclipse will cause the end of the world – perhaps a testament to the endurance of the superstitious side of the human psyche.

Roger Culver, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Colorado State University
This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article.

Sunday, July 2, 2017

Where Is This Flat Earth? A Question for Flat Earthers (VIDEOS)

Where Is This Flat Earth? A Question for Flat Earthers.

 

After watching this video on aplanetruth.info's channel called
"Top Vatican Jesuit Astronomer; Earth is Flat, Gravity is Obsolete."
It aroused in me a few questions. I want to ask all you Flat Earthers out there and
I hope you can answer my question. Over and over again folks keep saying they can see that the earth is flat. They use all kinds of tests and experiments to prove their point.
It is obvious that NASA (never a straight answer) is making up stuff as they go along. They use creative graphic artists to give us these amazing pictures, do-dads and what-nots to give us what they THINK it must look like out there. Okay, so you got me to this point.
But what I want to know is this, if the earth is flat, then what is the Earth flatly on?
Is it under water?
If so, where is the water coming from? What is the water encased in?
Is it a flat dome covered spaceship, floating out in space?
Is it a stationary flat doom covered spaceship.
Is the earth and all of its inhabitants just a fig-newton of someone's imagination?
Cause you see, unless you can tell me the actual location of this flat dome covered big ole rock then it stands to my reasoning that it may very well be flat, but it has to be held up by something.
Throw gravity out of the window, what is holding this flat dome covered rock in place?



I think that if flat earthers cannot answer that question and present specific evidence that the Earth is indeed flat, then the debate will go on endlessly because the real questions are not being answered and that is..... Where is this Flat Earth located in the scheme of things and how is it being held up, contained, held stationery, immovable,  and all the other answers that would make this flat earth notion fly..
I really don't care about what this so-called Vatican Astronomer has said, it's disengenuous to accept some things they say and ignore other stuff they say and do. Either they are gonna be impeccable points of light when it comes to truth, or they are just liars telling a little truth like the rest of them.
Where is the real answer?
Who has the real answer?
And when will it be revealed?

Many Flat earthers consider themselves Christians, however, they also believe that Christ ascended into heaven. If the earth is covered by a dome, then what heaven did he ascend into. Did he ascend into a hole in the dome? And if so, how come his ascension did not cause a full scale flooding of the planet?
How can you have it both ways?
How can you even believe he is coming back to save the world, and he will be in the flesh, yet you cannot say where he even went, and if we are living under a dome, and he ascended in the flesh, then how did he get through that dome?
So back to my original question.
Where is this Flat Earth located in the scheme of things and what is it anchored upon?

Wednesday, April 20, 2016

Nana's Commentary: "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball"

Nana's Commentary:
To me, the irony of this endless banter about the earth being flat, or the earth being a globe, the question that stumps the panel and that no one can prove is, where did it all begin. Who is this "God" according to the biblical/sacred texts? Who orchestrated the "big bang" according to the scientists?
Well, I have the answer, that will shut all this down.
Watch, the movie "Dark City."






After watching that, I was convinced that the "hidden" hand that created this world came from another ("Men In Black" ending gives clues.) And my theory is just as plausible as any other. If they can build huge planet size moons and spaceships, why couldn't they build a planet, a prison planet for their little wayward human creatures, who according to the Bible were born in sin anyways. Give them a playground, a few animals for pets, zoos, slaughter, consumption and clothing. Give them a few plants for the same purposes. Put them in a giant terrarium with plenty of water and see what happens.

Convene a Galactic Council to decide who will be allowed to come in and out. Design a zodiac/constellation apparatus to impact on their personalities. Give them time marked by the rising and setting of the sun and moon. Throw a few asteroids in for good measure and to keep it interesting. Add a little religion, well I should say dozens of religions. Mix in a little politics for surely these humans cannot be allowed to be sovereign. They must have LEADERS!!

Make sure that all the animals have COMMON sense and strong instincts, while the humans have to wait for someone to "train" them. Wipe their memories after each death so they can be trapped in the cycle of Karma. Make sure that those who manage to escape death come back with incredulous stories about heaven and hell, pass on their experiences through lore so the others will believe. It's imperative that while they believe they have free will and DO NOT have to step into the light (Star Trek) that it would behoove them to do so because there they will be reunited with their loved ones, Jesus, Buddha, etc.

Spoon feed them technology so that they never discover the hidden hand but keep the banter going back and forth about the nature and/or origin of "the hidden." hand. (Truman Show). Whenever they get too crazy, "come down" and dismantle their nuclear arsenals; blow a few volcanoes, throw in a tsunami, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. just to keep them scared shitless and to get them to comply. Keep them focused on the last days, death and the hereafter. ( I always thought the term "come down" was interesting. Why do humans say "God" "Angels" or "Aliens" come down?????)


Give only the Psychopathic rulers full range over controlling nature and point to the holy book and sacred scriptures (Vedas) as their right to eminent domain.  If they evolve too quickly and start to see themselves as humans instead of races, creeds, religions, sexes, etc. create enmity to keep it interesting as well, without a little friction this Truman show can become quite boring. Make sure that the minds of the masses have some options for expansion, but if anyone should expand too far, shut it down!

Collude all the world leaders, scientists and archaeologists. (The teachers will profess whatever they have been taught, so this will self replicate). The religious leaders are already colluded with their "sacred" writings, rituals, tithes, sacrifices and hocus-pocus.

Press the reset button every once in a while, because, Jeez, these humans are a wild bunch and tend to get out of control.

Since death and time is an illusion, pressing the reset button just recycles them all back into the pool with only a trace memory of horror. Of course, a few will survive, so, like in the "Book of Eli" give them the "Book" (myth, legends, folklore) so they can start all over again, or so they think they are anyways, and that's all that matters.

Create uprisings from time to time, kill off their leaders, good and bad, throw in a few psychopaths to keep it even more interesting.

Make sure the humans are hard wired to continuously put Psychopaths into the role of leaders over them. That will make this zoo more easily managed. As long as a bat shit crazy nut job is the bully in the playground, it won't need to be micromanaged, just a minor check-in from time to time. Allow them to have a few saviors, ET's, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Prophets, the Antichrist, etc. so they will continually look to the sky for help or some higher force beyond them. Keep them in survival mode, always searching for contentment. Augment their survival instincts with rewards like sex, marriage, money, family and presumptuous success.

Since cognitive dissonance is a most effective tool for keeping these human creatures insane, weak and fearful, create illusions, like philanthropy, love, success, hope, faith, virtue, integrity, and other do-gooder examples while oppressing their minds with evil, demons, consumerism and the media.

Create the illusion of good vs evil which is optimum in a 3d reality. There always has to be some kind of enmity so the natives can maintain a restless paranoia. Give them natural and pharmaceutical drugs to pacify them. Those who are most deviant will be thrown to the lions, beheaded, jailed, or threatened with damnation for all eternity. Keep this propaganda alive in the hearts and minds of the religious leaders. Fear of damnation is a great culling mechanism.

Since Plan-ET is a prime directive, there will be skirmishes with outer worldly powers (Star Wars) over who is in charge. Some sharing will take place, some stealing and backdoor dealings. Some of the most agreeable plans will last the longest, like taking turns on who will be the God of the next new religion and who is most adept at keeping the humans, blind, deaf and dumb. This arrangement could last for trillions of years with only a few, barely noticeable and surely laughable humans will discover. And since the reset button is always an option, wiping them all out and starting all over again is a viable solution should these humans start to unite and decide to escape this hell hole.

Ha, that makes sense to me!!!!